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    Help identify my lighting setup.
    on: 24 March, 2023, 05:39:19 pm
    24 March, 2023, 05:39:19 pm
    Hi, My 2009 tiger is new to me so I'm just discovering some of the modifications that have been done. It looks like there has been a Xeon upgrade but only to the dipped beam. So when I switch on Full beam it is a yellow light and the dipped beam is white.

    This is a problem for me as I have ordered a kit the will allow be to have both lights on by turning the full beam down by 60%.

    So I need to upgrade the Full beam to match the dipped. How do I do that?

    Do I need another AC Digital Ballast and would I need to try and take the headlight apart or is it just a bulb change?

    There wonít be much room for another Ballast.

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    Re: Help identify my lighting setup.
    Reply #1 on: 24 March, 2023, 08:17:49 pm
    24 March, 2023, 08:17:49 pm
    I kinda feel sorry for you as it seems that someone did a projector light modification but only to one side of the headlight cluster. It means that they already broke open the enclosure and I wonder how hard it'll be to do so again. It is also the pre-Sport headlight solution which became a better option as a later upgrade and does not need the ballasts, etc. The yellow high beam sounds fishy as it should be a regular halogen bulb. I never bought into tearing the headlight apart so tried dual H4's before sucking it up and buying a Sport unit. Best money I ever spent. Yes, it takes some fettling, but its eminently doable and a much more elegant, and permanent, fix.

    Have you ordered a Twinlight module? I don't think it can handle a projector setup, but others will know better. Hopefully a guru or two chimes in... :-)
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    Re: Help identify my lighting setup.
    Reply #2 on: 24 March, 2023, 09:03:09 pm
    24 March, 2023, 09:03:09 pm
    Itís an alternative to Twinlight which you canít get anymore. http://www.jn-elektronik.de/

    I can see myself selling the DoubleLight solution and sticking with what I have and see if I canít pick up 2nd hand Sport headlight assembly in the future.

    My usual impatience when getting a new bike, buy all these mods before I have properly looked at the bike.

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    Re: Help identify my lighting setup.
    Reply #3 on: 24 March, 2023, 09:48:27 pm
    24 March, 2023, 09:48:27 pm
    Looks like you've got the same setup as I have in my '12 SE, HID low beam, halogen high beam.

    So, two things:

    Firstly, you don't need the Twinlight system, the HID globe will give you all the light you need on low beam, a reduced high beam will not help low beam light at all.

    Secondly, you can get "whiter" halogen high beam globes which just slot right in. This is what I did. Unfortunately I did this quite a while ago and I don't remember exactly which globe I used. Just go to an auto parts store and browse the racks.

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    Re: Help identify my lighting setup.
    Reply #4 on: 24 March, 2023, 09:52:12 pm
    24 March, 2023, 09:52:12 pm
    Thanks Iíll give that a go. To be honest the Twinlight was more about aesthetics. Iím a bit OCD about the lights being one sided.

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    Re: Help identify my lighting setup.
    Reply #5 on: 24 March, 2023, 09:59:02 pm
    24 March, 2023, 09:59:02 pm
    I'm a gadget guy. I like innovation and trickery. Usually. Absolutely NOT when it comes to lights. It's the reason I avoided the Twinlight option and any derivatives would be the same. I also HATE tacked on lights (especially on the Tiger) as they are exposed, ugly and look awful. Sorry guys, those gecko eyes look like sh**. Better to keep it all neat and tidy and do the job in a smaller package. Or, just buy a BMW GS with a Christmas Tree array... :-)

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    Re: Help identify my lighting setup.
    Reply #6 on: 24 March, 2023, 10:01:36 pm
    24 March, 2023, 10:01:36 pm
    *Originally Posted by Irn-bru [+]
    Thanks Iíll give that a go. To be honest the Twinlight was more about aesthetics. Iím a bit OCD about the lights being one sided.

    I did the H4 conversion for the same reason - balance the look. I hardly ever ride at night. It melted the lens after a while so heat was an issue. Go Sport and never look back...

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    Re: Help identify my lighting setup.
    Reply #7 on: 25 March, 2023, 01:44:43 am
    25 March, 2023, 01:44:43 am

    *Originally Posted by ZuluTiger [+]
    ..... exposed, ugly and look awful. Sorry guys, those gecko eyes look like sh**. ....

    *Originally Posted by ZuluTiger [+]
    ..... I hardly ever ride at night. ...

    ZuluTiger, lopsided opinions regarding how lights 'look' to the beholder are secondary to the opinions of those who actually use their lights for, you know, seeing down the road in the dark.

    I'm happy to bolt lights on anywhere they fit so I can ride the thing anywhere and any how I choose, rather than hiding in the garage wondering what all of the other 'gadget guys' think of my latest daylight only 'small package'.

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    Re: Help identify my lighting setup.
    Reply #8 on: 26 March, 2023, 10:41:10 pm
    26 March, 2023, 10:41:10 pm
    FWIW, my '07 had LED's in place of the stock H7/H9. Coming back from a flat track race at night I was terrified. No real light being thrown on the road. I had to follow close behind my buddy on his Road King. A sphincter tightening experience as he was running 75-80 mph. Turns out to get the LED's to put out any light the bulbs had to be pulled almost out of the housings. Threw them away and put in high end H7/H9's from Dan Stern (an auto lighting guru). Not a hell of a lot better. As we all know the OE reflector is junk. So...you either buy a Sport headlight assembly ($400?) or hang some lights.
    The bike is dangerous as built by Triumph.
    Meet my new Rigid LED spots.


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    Re: Help identify my lighting setup.
    Reply #9 on: 27 March, 2023, 09:55:03 pm
    27 March, 2023, 09:55:03 pm
    "I'm happy to bolt lights on anywhere they fit so I can ride the thing anywhere and any how I choose, rather than hiding in the garage wondering what all of the other 'gadget guys' think of my latest daylight only 'small package'."

    Ox, chill, this is not an attack on your ugly lighting setup, and most of us here don't get personal as you just did. Mostly, we feel free to air our views without the usual forum big-knuts need to be an alpha. My point was that a bike can be both neat and functional and a little work can achieve both without just throwing on hardware. I've ridden every kind of bike in daytime and at night and just choose not to ride at night now that I have a fleet of better protected vehicles. Lucky me, right?

    To the point, as cafe racers, customisers and adventure riders know: Less is more. Less to carry, less to break, less to maintain, less to clean. See? If I did not make that clear in my post and offended you, sorry...

    I still think that the Sport conversion is a no-brainer, no matter your motivation. You now have four 'eyes' to work with and nothing to break out there on the 'crash' bars and I argue that you'll spend the money anyway so do it tidily up front. In a small (but effective) package as the South African said to the Australian as Sheila smiled on.....