Author 2008 Tiger 1050, non starter.  (Read 1328 times)

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  • Offline Woodie   gb

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    2008 Tiger 1050, non starter.
    on: 14 August, 2022, 06:24:22 pm
    14 August, 2022, 06:24:22 pm
    After minor repairs and standing since the new toy arrived the Old Tiger won't start.

    It will start but will only tick over, as soon as I try and rev it dies. Stripped and cleaned fuel pump, cleaned fuel filter, replaced seals etc.
    Checked pump runs both out and in the tank, it does pump but don't know how to check if pressure is sufficient. 

    If I start it by squirting Bradex into the airbox it will rev until it runs out of it and then it goes back to only ticking over.

    Also if I leave it to tick over it runs for a few minutes and then dies. If I turn it off and on it resets, and then it will do the same thing.

    Any suggestions to try next, short of a new fuel pump?
    I never touched it, you can't blame me, it went off when I was cleaning it.

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    Re: 2008 Tiger 1050, non starter.
    Reply #1 on: 14 August, 2022, 07:47:47 pm
    14 August, 2022, 07:47:47 pm
    Air leaks, MAP sensor hose connected, good battery, 14/15v at battery when you can get it idling?

    If pump runs more likely it's injectors?  It cuts out cos the mix goes super lean when you open throttle as more air is getting in but the appropriate fuel amount is not.
    Last Edit: 14 August, 2022, 07:49:24 pm by Sidewinder

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    Re: 2008 Tiger 1050, non starter.
    Reply #2 on: 15 August, 2022, 02:08:29 am
    15 August, 2022, 02:08:29 am
    Which header pipes don't get hot?
    The best substitute for brains is ........what?

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    Re: 2008 Tiger 1050, non starter.
    Reply #3 on: 15 August, 2022, 08:24:23 pm
    15 August, 2022, 08:24:23 pm
    *Originally Posted by Freddy [+]
    Which header pipes don't get hot?
         :0461:  Sure miss the I'm with stupid to lazy opening up for more. Anyone who knows Freddy is he's far from it with the engine etc bit's.

    Yep and how do the plugs look.

    For $30 get a InfraRed gun, not super accurate but good enough to give you a good idea of temp's.
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    Re: 2008 Tiger 1050, non starter.
    Reply #4 on: 16 August, 2022, 01:26:15 am
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    I use a spray bottle.   :007:
    The best substitute for brains is ........what?

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    Re: 2008 Tiger 1050, non starter.
    Reply #5 on: 18 August, 2022, 01:24:02 pm
    18 August, 2022, 01:24:02 pm
    *Originally Posted by Freddy [+]
    Which header pipes don't get hot?

    None of them... or all of them depending on your point of view, they all felt hot, all boiled the water off when I sprayed them. Unfortunately I couldn't get it to run more than about 20 seconds but stopped and started it a few times and then checked.

    *Originally Posted by Sidewinder [+]
    Air leaks, MAP sensor hose connected, good battery, 14/15v at battery when you can get it idling?

    No discernible air leaks, and MAP sensor hose connected. I blew through the Map sensor tube and checked no blockages to any of the cylinders. I have ordered a new MAP sensor and will try that.
    Battery is a fairly new Yuasa 14 AH with a full charge via an Optimate 3 charger. So it flies over.

    *Originally Posted by Sidewinder [+]
    If pump runs more likely it's injectors?  It cuts out cos the mix goes super lean when you open throttle as more air is getting in but the appropriate fuel amount is not.

    Won't say no but confused as to how injectors can fail after only being left a few weeks. I really need to prove this is the case as I don't want to spend a lot on injectors unless I have to and I have no way of cleaning them.

    *Update*. getting it to start first time requires a squirt of Easy-Start but once it's run once it then will fire up but as before only to idle. Will try new MAP sensor but after that I may just hand it over to my local friendly Bike shop.
    Not that I doubt I will ultimately find the fault but need to get this sold and new job has me a tad busy ATM..
    But I'm open to any advice especially as I am not an experienced FI fettler.
    I never touched it, you can't blame me, it went off when I was cleaning it.

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    Re: 2008 Tiger 1050, non starter.
    Reply #6 on: 18 August, 2022, 01:41:07 pm
    18 August, 2022, 01:41:07 pm
    definitely not getting enough fuel. Either a bad pump or FI sensor

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    Re: 2008 Tiger 1050, non starter.
    Reply #7 on: 18 August, 2022, 03:03:59 pm
    18 August, 2022, 03:03:59 pm
    If it ran fine a few weeks ago, I'd be looking at the simple things as to why it's not getting fuel.

    What have you done to it since it last ran, before you set about the fuel pump?

    Did you refill with fresh fuel?

    Can you hear the pump priming, does it sound as it should?
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    Re: 2008 Tiger 1050, non starter.
    Reply #8 on: 18 August, 2022, 06:26:45 pm
    18 August, 2022, 06:26:45 pm
    *Originally Posted by Paul2bikes [+]
    If it ran fine a few weeks ago, I'd be looking at the simple things as to why it's not getting fuel.

    What have you done to it since it last ran, before you set about the fuel pump?

    Did you refill with fresh fuel?

    Can you hear the pump priming, does it sound as it should?

    *Originally Posted by Woodie [+]
    Stripped and cleaned fuel pump, cleaned fuel filter, replaced seals etc.
    Checked pump runs both out and in the tank, it does pump but don't know how to check if pressure is sufficient. 

    as well as new fuel, new air filter, new plugs.

    I never touched it, you can't blame me, it went off when I was cleaning it.

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    Re: 2008 Tiger 1050, non starter.
    Reply #9 on: 18 August, 2022, 06:27:44 pm
    18 August, 2022, 06:27:44 pm
    *Originally Posted by Rhead [+]
    definitely not getting enough fuel. Either a bad pump or FI sensor

    FI sensor?? where dat den?
    I never touched it, you can't blame me, it went off when I was cleaning it.

     



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