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Offline TimboLeMatelot

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Maxton Suspension Appraisal
« on: 19 May, 2020, 09:00:14 PM »
For those who are interested this is Maxton Suspensions opinion of the Tiger suspenders. It applies to the 2016 onwards too:

TRIUMPH TIGER 1050 SPORT 2013 to 2016
FRONT
The front forks on the Tiger 1050 are upside down forks with radially
mounted brake calipers. They are an unusual design in that one leg has
rebound damping and no compression damping, the other leg has
compression damping and no rebound damping. This makes setting up
the damping up very difficult. Both fork legs have springs, which are on
the soft side for the average rider weight. It is basically a cheap design of
fork. The design has been chosen so that the user gets rebound and
compression damping adjusters, without having to put damping adjusters
at the bottom of the fork.
We replace most of the internals and modify others, so that the forks have
rebound damping and compression damping in both legs. The rebound
and compression damping is valved to suit your rider weight and what
you use the bike for. We also modify the original fork tops to take our
internals. We then fit harder Maxton springs to suit your rider weight. After
the conversion the forks are adjustable for rebound damping and
preload, the compression damping is not adjustable but has been valved
to suit you and what you use the bike for.
The Maxton cartridges costs 405.00 + V.A.T. To install the cartridges and
service the forks costs 130.00 + V.A.T. We usually fit new fork seals as part
of the service this costs an extra 25.00 + V.A.T. We can also just supply
the cartridges, but you would need experience to fit them.

REAR
The rear of the bike tends to feels a little soft on smooth roads but kicks
you out of the seat a lot when ridden on bumpy A and B roads. The
reason for this is because the linkages have a lot of rising rate designed
into them. This simply means that as the wheel is compressing, the spring
needs to get softer. With the spring being linear this is impossible, so the
ride gets stiffer. We can fit a softer spring to the standard unit which
improves the harsh ride, but can make the bike a little too soft on smooth
roads. This costs 95.00 + V.A.T. The unit is a sealed unit so can not be
revalved.
We can also supply a Maxton replacement unit. The damping in the unit
is designed to work with the rising rate linkage, giving an improved ride
over the standard unit. We also fit a spring to suit your rider weight. The
Maxton unit is adjustable for rebound damping, compression damping
and preload. The range of damping adjustment is a lot greater than the
original Triumph unit, this allows you to fine tune the set up better for the
roads you ride on. The Maxton unit is an alloy, bodied, high-pressure gas
unit that adjusts via shim stack system. The unit has a ride height adjuster
and a spring to suit your rider weight and to suit what type of riding you
do. The NR4 unit costs 460.00.
We also make a hydraulic preload adjuster for the Tiger that costs an
extra 220.00. The Maxton hydraulic preload adjuster only fits a Maxton
unit. ALL PRICES EXCLUDE V.A.T.

Bw

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Re: Maxton Suspension Appraisal
« Reply #1 on: 19 May, 2020, 11:49:16 PM »
 :112: Thanks for posting this Timbo, am looking at replacing the rear shock and putting some progressive springs in the front at the moment.
Was looking at the nitron or possibly Hagon for the back.
Have you fitted a Maxton shock to your sport?
« Last Edit: 20 May, 2020, 12:09:47 AM by Tigermike »
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Re: Maxton Suspension Appraisal
« Reply #2 on: 20 May, 2020, 08:16:19 AM »
No I have a Nitron rear shock .... but having spoken to Richard at Maxton this week I actually think you would get a better service\result with them. I suspect they are a little more "bespoke"

I have just ordered a rear for the wife's Street Triple from Maxton.

I intend to get my forks re-worked by Maxton this year at some point.

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Re: Maxton Suspension Appraisal
« Reply #3 on: 20 May, 2020, 01:04:04 PM »
ok, thanks. the Maxton & Nitron are similar prices for the rear but cant afford to stretch to the Maxton fork cartridges.  :110:
think i will go for the Wilbers progressive springs or similar.
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Re: Maxton Suspension Appraisal
« Reply #4 on: 04 June, 2020, 10:27:14 AM »
Have a word with MCT Suspension - they can rebuild your shock with the correct spring for your weight and modify the compression damping (although it won't be adjustable). Will cost a fair bit less also

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Re: Maxton Suspension Appraisal
« Reply #5 on: 04 June, 2020, 09:58:00 PM »
*Originally Posted by leighz [+]
Have a word with MCT Suspension - they can rebuild your shock with the correct spring for your weight and modify the compression damping (although it won't be adjustable). Will cost a fair bit less also
Thanks for the recommendation, I will have a look.  :031:
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Re: Maxton Suspension Appraisal
« Reply #6 on: 06 June, 2020, 07:42:51 PM »
Slightly off topic but ...

Paula's Maxton RT10 rear suspenders arrived yesterday for her Street Triple R (2014) and was fitted this morning by ourselves in a amount an hour including a clean up and a greasing of the girl's bushes! Very nicely engineered and machined, no rough edges and everything very polished and shiny.

Post test ride I have a very happy wife ... from my own perspective following her, the apparent polished section on her rear tyre very quickly disappeared, which I would take as evidence, the shock has made a considerable difference to  how the tyre is in contact with the road. Noticeable too was the edge to Paula's ride, she looked much more confident on the bike. Money well spent, as its a keeper and demonstrative of how badly the manufacturers get suspension wrong. It didn't matter where you put the comp setting out of 24 clicks it made no difference at all on the OEM unit.

The outcome is of course I now have permission to get the Tiger forks sorted ... tee hee!

I'll keep you posted

Bw