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Offline Triumph24

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Starter works intermilttengly
« on: 14 October, 2019, 03:42:52 AM »
It's that simple. Sometimes when I hit the starter switch nothing happens. Then a few minutes later it works. New battery and tight connections. Any ideas. Where does the main battery ground hook up to the frame or whatever? I can hear the solenoid click, but then I have to turn off the ignition to get it to try again.
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« Last Edit: 14 October, 2019, 03:44:55 AM by Triumph24 »

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Re: Starter works intermilttengly
« Reply #1 on: 14 October, 2019, 09:45:33 AM »
Is this a new problem? Does it happen from cold or just from hot? How long you had the bike? Simple stuff first. Follow the battery cables down & check the connections at the other ends eg earth, solenoid & starter.
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Re: Starter works intermilttengly
« Reply #2 on: 14 October, 2019, 09:53:43 AM »
*Originally Posted by Triumph24 [+]
It's that simple. Sometimes when I hit the starter switch nothing happens. Then a few minutes later it works. New battery and tight connections. Any ideas. Where does the main battery ground hook up to the frame or whatever? I can hear the solenoid click, but then I have to turn off the ignition to get it to try again.
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If you are happy the battery is A1-Tip-Top, then you need to check the clutch & side stand switches. Perhaps just a little lube is all you need  :187:
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Re: Starter works intermilttengly
« Reply #3 on: 14 October, 2019, 10:23:56 AM »
The main earth (or ground) connection is on the back of the motor, just above the gearbox section behind the cylinders (the frame is not used for electricals on these bikes, 'cos of the alloy construction). It's worth checking this connection even though it's a pig to get to (even more so if you have the California-style anti-pollution pot there). But if you can, loosen the nut, undo the cables there, vaseline them up and retighten (not too tight).

Also, the starter solenoid under the seat has a large master fuse on it (under a cover) - pull this out and check for corrosion, then also vaseline and reassemble).

But it does sound like your battery might be a bit suspect, even if it's new. There are batteries and batteries, and you need the best you can get for the Tiger. To confkrm if this is the issue, hook up a car battery in parallel via jump leads (N.B. the car engine should NOT be running!), then try starting the bike a few times. If there's no problem at all, you might want to relook at the battery.
« Last Edit: 14 October, 2019, 10:25:38 AM by Paullie »

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Re: Starter works intermilttengly
« Reply #4 on: 14 October, 2019, 11:27:03 AM »
Very important, when you say 'nothing happens' do you mean literally nothing, no sounds or reaction from the bike at all?  If so you're looking at clutch(more likely) or stand interlocks as YD says.  The starter button itself is also a possibility (being dirty/poor contact).
If however you''re getting a click from the relay and/or solenoid(should get both) the clutch/stand interlocks are nothing to do with it and you need to look at the starting motor circuit.  Three components; battery, motor & solenoid and three wires are all that's involved.

On an 08 Tiger the earth point is easy to get to, at least I find it so.
« Last Edit: 14 October, 2019, 11:35:42 AM by Sidewinder »

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Re: Starter works intermilttengly
« Reply #5 on: 14 October, 2019, 04:20:10 PM »
We all missing the 1st stage, what does the battery measure on your multimeter? Just 'cos it's new don't mean it's good.

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Re: Starter works intermilttengly
« Reply #6 on: 14 October, 2019, 04:46:30 PM »
Hot or cold? If you can hear the solenoid clicking it's probably early warning that it's time for a new battery.
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Re: Starter works intermilttengly
« Reply #7 on: 15 October, 2019, 03:55:41 AM »
Yellow Dog nailed it. It was the clutch switch.  Five minutes and some contact cleaner, and it works like a charm. Thanks to all you guys for your suggestions. You always come through for me.

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Re: Starter works intermilttengly
« Reply #8 on: 15 October, 2019, 07:22:07 AM »
Brill, glad you got it sorted & thanks for the feedback. That's an odd one with you getting a click from the solenoid. Well sussed YD.
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