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Re: New 1050 Engine - Loss Of Oil Pressure
« Reply #10 on: 21 March, 2019, 12:57:35 PM »
*Originally Posted by Paul2bikes [+]
By somebody serving his notice?  :745:
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Re: New 1050 Engine - Loss Of Oil Pressure
« Reply #11 on: 21 March, 2019, 05:26:52 PM »
*Originally Posted by Timbox [+]
Let's just hope he ain't gone to KTM ☹

Didn't he come from KTM?
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Re: New 1050 Engine - Loss Of Oil Pressure
« Reply #12 on: 21 March, 2019, 05:31:53 PM »
Many of the Triumph design team have been poached by Royal Enfield, for their technical plant down the road. There could a double agent operating by sounds of it.
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Re: New 1050 Engine - Loss Of Oil Pressure
« Reply #13 on: 21 March, 2019, 08:03:03 PM »
*Originally Posted by indytiger1050 [+]
This makes sense. 
Justin was at my house, needed an oil change.
He pre filled the filter which I've done on other vehicles. Started bike, oil light stayed on.

We ended up swapping my oil sending unit out with his. Problem went away.
Tried my bike that now had his sending unit no issue.  Thought it was odd but what do you do when the issue is gone.

Will add this to a sticky.

ACTUALLY, at least the way I remember it, after we swapped senders the problem continued. As a test, we pulled the oil filter, started the bike, and no oil flowed for about a second. As I was just about to shut it off to avoid damage, a big eruption happened and then we were good. But yeah, the sender unit was not a problem. And it was a "fill the filter before fitting" situation. I figured it was the full filter that created the problem.

BTW, the link isn't working for me either.

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Re: New 1050 Engine - Loss Of Oil Pressure
« Reply #14 on: 21 March, 2019, 08:20:15 PM »
*Originally Posted by TCC [+]
Doesn't apply to Tiger 1050 or Tiger Sport but something alarming going on with the latest generation 1050 engine as used in the current Speed Triple 'S' and 'RS'.

*Originally Posted by varnerju [+]
ACTUALLY, at least the way I remember it, after we swapped senders the problem continued. As a test, we pulled the oil filter, started the bike, and no oil flowed for about a second. As I was just about to shut it off to avoid damage, a big eruption happened and then we were good. But yeah, the sender unit was not a problem. And it was a "fill the filter before fitting" situation. I figured it was the full filter that created the problem.

Bit confused here. Was this on your Tiger 1050 or do you also own a current Speed Triple 'S' and 'RS'.
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Re: New 1050 Engine - Loss Of Oil Pressure
« Reply #15 on: 22 March, 2019, 01:50:06 PM »
When this happened to me, it was my 2008 Tiger 1050.

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Re: New 1050 Engine - Loss Of Oil Pressure
« Reply #16 on: 22 March, 2019, 02:31:45 PM »
*Originally Posted by varnerju [+]
When this happened to me, it was my 2008 Tiger 1050.

That's odd eh m8, that bike must have changed oil & filter a dozen times or more. Was the oil re-filled straight away as we would, or next day? Just thinking of oilways draining & airlock.
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Re: New 1050 Engine - Loss Of Oil Pressure
« Reply #17 on: 22 March, 2019, 02:52:08 PM »
Yes, I had changed the oil several times before then, and several times since then and never seen this problem. That one time though, I drained the oil, pulled the filter, then pre-filled the new filter and put it back on, then filled the engine. All of that was done within 15 minutes, so it never sat long. And the bike was running almost immediately before draining, so not much of a chance for drying out there either.

I believe that the prefilling oil in the filter getting screwed on could possibly have pushed oil backwards in the system and locked something up. I typically don't bother pre-filling, but for whatever reason I chose to that time, perhaps Indy looking over my shoulder...

The link shared in the first post isn't working for me, so I can't read the original claim in depth, but the synopsis sounds exactly like what I experienced. I had never thought of filling the engine with the filter off. Initially I would worry about that being a drain, but if I think about it, the pump isn't running so as long as the plug is replaced, the filter doesn't matter until the engine is started, right?

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Re: New 1050 Engine - Loss Of Oil Pressure
« Reply #18 on: 22 March, 2019, 03:14:11 PM »
I never used to fill the filter before fitting but I have done over the past few oil changes, no problems....yet.
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Re: New 1050 Engine - Loss Of Oil Pressure
« Reply #19 on: 22 March, 2019, 06:46:52 PM »
i always fill the filter, then the motor. Over 30 times on the tiger, never had an issue.