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Offline gosh

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help needed in starting bike
« on: 09 October, 2016, 09:16:27 PM »
long story ..SHORTISH...
had bike out late july ..no probs starting  .. 3 weeks ago was going on long run ,but hit starter ..and clik... nothing...put on optimizer since then ...today ,was going out so unplugged  optimizer yesterday...same thing hit starter ,nothing ....well , turned off the hated datatool alarm,turned on ignition,it went thru the usual whirring ,dial/dash lights,routine ,hit the starter .cranked over 2 times ,stopped,..dash lights /whirring routine again ..starter ,again only 2 turns ..gave it a 3rd go exactly the same.......NEVER ever had this bfore..
the battery is on optimizer a lot of the year as with this crappy datatool alarm it does flatten battery quite quickly ,and i dont get out much with work commitments..optimizer had all 4 lights on and in the green [fully charged]..      whats strange is that the cranking over is always 2 times only ,and then goes thru the startup routine again .....i did notice that there was NO headlights [only side s] on ,when ready to hit starter , i played around with starter,headlight ,clutch and centrestand switches ,the headlight definately on now ,chargedup battery 5 hours on optimate ,.hit starter ,.....and .....exactly the same again as said above........ANY HELP ....appreciated ...i dont have any voltage readings as i wouldnt know where 2 start...

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Re: help needed in starting bike
« Reply #1 on: 09 October, 2016, 09:45:38 PM »
Can you measure the voltage of the battery before you hit the starter and as you hit the starter to see what it's giving out ?

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Re: help needed in starting bike
« Reply #2 on: 09 October, 2016, 10:38:23 PM »
What year's your bike and what did you upgrade the crappy stock battery to?

My bike sits on a battery tender and always starts, no problem  :169:
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Re: help needed in starting bike
« Reply #3 on: 09 October, 2016, 10:41:43 PM »
*Originally Posted by Yellow Dog [+]
What year's your bike and what did you upgrade the crappy stock battery to?

My bike sits on a battery tender and always starts, no problem  :169:
That's because your pistons are cracked and it starts easier that way :169:
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Re: help needed in starting bike
« Reply #4 on: 09 October, 2016, 10:45:05 PM »
i pesume put v/meter between+ and - on the battery terminals,when fully charged ...i have never ever used anything to do with electrics, ..ac or dc  ...would i also have to leave the v/meter attached while cranking it over? ..or would that damage it ...

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Re: help needed in starting bike
« Reply #5 on: 09 October, 2016, 10:54:47 PM »
@yellowdog
bike is a 2007 with only 8,000 miles ,on original battery , and always been on optimate oximizer...it has never ever refused to start..till 3 weeks ago..what gets me is the .. ONLY 2 cranks of the starter ,
before it stops cranking and then resets to startup procedure .eg..whirring and dial spin on dash waiting to be  started..

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Re: help needed in starting bike
« Reply #6 on: 09 October, 2016, 11:01:42 PM »
*Originally Posted by gosh [+]
@yellowdog
bike is a 2007 with only 8,000 miles ,on original battery , and always been on optimate oximizer...it has never ever refused to start..till 3 weeks ago..what gets me is the .. ONLY 2 cranks of the starter ,
before it stops cranking and then resets to startup procedure .eg..whirring and dial spin on dash waiting to be  started..

WOW - That's impressive.

So congrats to you on holding the world record for an OEM battery.  :062:

I wouldn't spend another second on trying to diagnose this issue, without first taking your OEM battery out of the equation  :110:


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Re: help needed in starting bike
« Reply #7 on: 09 October, 2016, 11:11:35 PM »
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Dead battery. Time for a ytz14s yuassa.
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Re: help needed in starting bike
« Reply #8 on: 10 October, 2016, 12:08:16 AM »
@smaug ,and yellowdog,
im  hoping that it is only the battery, and nothing else associated with electrics..

i have been looking on int net for the yuasa ..80 plus delivery charge , from halfords..the local carlisle or even newcastle halfords dont do a reserve/deliver  to store..

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Re: help needed in starting bike
« Reply #9 on: 10 October, 2016, 01:45:20 AM »
Many factors will quote you 100+ for a Yuasa, so that sounds pretty good.

Make sure you get the YTZ14S, and not the YTX14S (that one is too big for your battery compartment). The YTZ is a bit smaller, so you'll use a bit of polystyrene packing material (or another spare tool) to pack the battery in tight. But it is a higher rated battery.

 


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