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Re: Definitive Tiger Sport suspension setup thread
Reply #50 on: 13 October, 2016, 01:03:22 PM
*Originally Posted by molly [+]
Try another 1/2 turn softer on the compression and rebound both ends and see how that feels.
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So here's Sean's new cheat sheet if you're around my weight.
    Set all of your damping settings to the softest (min)
    Leave them there
    Tweak the preload

I did go another 5 clicks in on the pre-load which is now 9 clicks out. That's about as good as its going to get for solo riding without spending any hard earned dosh.
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Re: Definitive Tiger Sport suspension setup thread
Reply #51 on: 13 October, 2016, 01:33:51 PM
Glad to be of service. I had a fun afternoon getting to basically where you are now on a bumpy country lane, adjusting the settings 1/2 a turn and re riding the same patch of road.
Preload actually makes little difference other than where the spring operates for the riders weight.
Last Edit: 13 October, 2016, 01:56:30 PM by molly
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Re: Definitive Tiger Sport suspension setup thread
Reply #52 on: 13 October, 2016, 01:48:29 PM
*Originally Posted by molly [+]
Glad to be of service. I had a fun afternoon getting to basically where you are now on bumpy country lane, adjusting the settings 1/2 a turn and re riding the same patch of road.
Preload actually makes little difference other than where the spring operates for the riders weight.
Sounds a lot like my morning  :028:
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Re: Definitive Tiger Sport suspension setup thread
Reply #53 on: 13 October, 2016, 02:29:27 PM
Hell of a difference in the pre-load settings we are all using back & front eh Sean, just looking at yours to Molly's.

Does the 2016 model have same suspension as the 13-15 model?
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Re: Definitive Tiger Sport suspension setup thread
Reply #54 on: 13 October, 2016, 02:41:44 PM
I now have mine set the same as Sean, rebound and compression front and rear almost fully wound to the softest setting. Any adjustments for pillion and luggage will be done only on the preload from now on.
2016 and 2015- 2013 models have the same  suspension so at least two of us agree on the way forward.
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Re: Definitive Tiger Sport suspension setup thread
Reply #55 on: 13 October, 2016, 02:52:13 PM
Ok molly, and the Pre-load front & back, have you changed that to Seans or ???
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Re: Definitive Tiger Sport suspension setup thread
Reply #56 on: 13 October, 2016, 03:00:23 PM
No I'm still on my own preload settings.
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Re: Definitive Tiger Sport suspension setup thread
Reply #57 on: 13 October, 2016, 03:03:34 PM
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No I'm still on my own preload settings.

Big difference innit?
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Re: Definitive Tiger Sport suspension setup thread
Reply #58 on: 13 October, 2016, 03:16:29 PM
As I said earlier the preload sets the spring sag for the riders weight so the spring operates at a certain position in it's travel. It has not near the same effect on the ride quality that rebound and compression does. I tried playing around with front preload on my test ride and really couldn't tell much difference wherever I put it. Maybe two up it would have, but I didn't go that far.
Last Edit: 13 October, 2016, 03:57:03 PM by molly
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Re: Definitive Tiger Sport suspension setup thread
Reply #59 on: 13 October, 2016, 04:36:55 PM
*Originally Posted by molly [+]
As I said earlier the preload sets the spring sag for the riders weight so the spring operates at a certain position in it's travel. It has not near the same effect on the ride quality that rebound and compression does. I tried playing around with front preload on my test ride and really couldn't tell much difference wherever I put it. Maybe two up it would have, but I didn't go that far.
:462: The reason you wind up the rear pre-load when fully loaded is to raise the back (compared to the front) so you don't get under-steer. Exactly the same principle that makes people drop their yokes when they install lowering plates at the rear.

The reason I have such a high pre-load is that even with the pre-load my rider sag in front is 68mm.  The fork travel is 140mm, so I am using half of the available suspension just by sitting on the bike. That means I don't get quite the plush ride that I would if I had the correct spring installed. Increasing the pre-load does not, and cannot, compensate for being under sprung but it does allow me to use more of the spring.
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