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Offline johned

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Instrument panel repair
on: 12 September, 2014, 11:50:49 PM
There is some bad info floating around......I think.  The water damage done to the internals of my instrument cluster, namely the three switches, is caused by condensation within the instrument enclosure.  It isn't necessarily leakage past the light lens or around the plug.

The enclosure is not sealed by design.  Triumph's.  It is made of two clam shell like pieces that fit snugly together.  NO WATER SEAL.  The instrument enclosure is intended to breath to reduce water build-up.  I think it is taking too small of breaths and water is accumulating till the unit sees a dry spell and sheds the water.  Only my switches were damaged.  You can tell cause the no longer "click".

Indy sent me six switches and my tech used three for the repair.  I have three switches for whoever needs to have their instrument cluster repaired.  ALSO, I have a technician that will install the switches for around $30.  His name is Peter and he can be reached at 971 240 8855.  Lives in Salem Oregon.  I suggest you ship/mail him your unit.  All of my dealings have been superb and he is skilled and most important he is good intentioned.

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Re: Instrument panel repair
Reply #1 on: 12 September, 2014, 11:54:04 PM
 Or we could just use "that guy" we all know who does that stuff equally well :027:

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Re: Instrument panel repair
Reply #2 on: 13 September, 2014, 12:14:55 AM
 Not sure about the breathing cluster.
But the first one I looked at and documented with pictures leaked at the Neutral, High beam, turn signal, low fuel membrane.
So water could, did leak in, no drain holes and it stayed. The water left witness marks from the on the pcb's.


The second cluster I looked at HAMLIN's did not leak from the front bezel, it also had water damage covering the entire cluster pcb. Found out later the entire bike was under water during the Sandy huricane.


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Re: Instrument panel repair
Reply #3 on: 13 September, 2014, 03:11:10 AM
Indy,

The cluster can't hold water as the halves don't have a sealing surface or gasket.  I can't see how there could be an accumulation and witness marks.  I mentioned to my repair guy that all the water damage to the switches was the result of condensation forming on the PCB and then running down and accumulating on the lower edge of the PCB that is the switches.  The panel does sit at an angle and a few tablespoons of water could accumulate in the bottom but more would run out the unsealed seams. 

I am considering putting a strip of common electrical tape across the top seam to prevent water vapor from being blown into the panel innards.  Also, I think I will drill a small hole in the shell to allow water to escape.  The small puddle would just keep everything damp in there and promote mold growth. 

My problem began after a couple long runs in rain.  I did pressure wash the bike a few times but I was always careful to not spray the instruments nor the chain.

I thought the guys prices were especially good.  He teaches soldering to assemblers but I don't know that he has any sort of credential.

I'll try to take some pictures but you know how that goes. :159:

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Re: Instrument panel repair
Reply #4 on: 14 September, 2014, 12:01:39 PM
*Originally Posted by indytiger1050 [+]



The second cluster I looked at HAMLIN's did not leak from the front bezel, it also had water damage covering the entire cluster pcb. Found out later the entire bike was under water during the Sandy huricane.






That was a 2009 S3 that I named "The Floater". I bought it to part out and some members bought some of the bits. The cluster didn't like being submerged in brine!
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Re: Instrument panel repair
Reply #5 on: 14 September, 2014, 07:35:48 PM
I don't like being submerged in brine or any other liquid....actually. :015:

I got that Bad Girl all back together and she works fine.  just fine.  And I am getting closer to my first ride since the quad by-pass surgery.  Only the windscreen remains. :155:

I will have an eval of the CalSci touring on a stock mounting.  Thanks tyo Hamlin and his bargain store. :047:
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Re: Instrument panel repair
Reply #6 on: 14 September, 2014, 09:38:37 PM
Good to hear you're gettin' ready to ride!   :047:  ... especially with the help of the great folks on the Forum!

Watch out for those adrenalin hits as you get back on it!!!  Looking forward to the eval of the CalSci screen.
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Re: Instrument panel repair
Reply #7 on: 15 September, 2014, 01:14:59 PM
*Originally Posted by johned [+]
I don't like being submerged in brine or any other liquid....actually. :015:

I got that Bad Girl all back together and she works fine.  just fine.  And I am getting closer to my first ride since the quad by-pass surgery.  Only the windscreen remains. :155:

I will have an eval of the CalSci touring on a stock mounting.  Thanks tyo Hamlin and his bargain store. :047:




Good luck, and stay healthy!
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Re: Instrument panel repair
Reply #8 on: 10 June, 2021, 05:53:42 PM
I think I am experiencing the exact problem outlined in this thread. Shop is quoting me $$$ to replace the entire gauge cluster. Realizing this is a really old thread but damn, wish I knew if it was just an issue of sourcing/replacing switches.

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Re: Instrument panel repair
Reply #9 on: 11 June, 2021, 01:03:54 AM

 



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